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CinTzu wrote:

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FEG,
I shot the EAA Witness in .38 Super. What a great shooting pistol/caliber. Hot rounds with little
recoil. No wonder that caliber is so popular in IPSC/USPSA. No jams and very accurate. I was
shooting handloads, 115 gr. FMJ, CCI 500 primers with 8.3 grains AA#7 for about 1150fps.
I love that grip configuration. Reminds me of the Browning Hi-Power. My big problem now
is finding a holster and 15 rd. mags. Unfortunately, I live in the Republic of New Jersey so I
can't buy the 17 rounders I saw on-line at Midway USA.

.38 Super and 10mm are my two leading excuses for someday getting a Witness. The problem is that they are also popular in 1911 pistols, which are easier to find around here. I've never actually seen a large frame Witness for sale in my area, unless it was used.

That sounds like a nice, smooth, flat-shooting load. I wonder how it will do with the 130 gr bullets? SP-8 would probably be an awesome powder, but Nobel only publishes 9x19mm data.

I'm glad you like it. My father used to have an old Colt in .38 Super, but he sold it when they first started going for something like $2,000.00. I've always wanted to handload for the cartridge.

Praying for Zombies wrote:

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Hi, I've lurked around here for quite a while, and was registered a long time ago. I've been talking to a friend of mine who is quite active around here and he reiterated why I should join anew. So, here I am, looking for good info and the occasional big fish story.

That would be me.

poppo wrote:

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Hi. New member here looking for some info. I have a CZ85 I bought NIB quite a few years ago. I know it's a pre-B model, but am not sure which version it is. Some of the markings are CZ85 (of course) and Made in Czech Republic. I'm looking for some spare 15 round magazines for it as one after-market I have is giving me grief. I saw some sites that say their CZ mags (i.e. MecGar) will not work in pre-B models. But I've also read here that some pre-B owners have not had any problems with them. And to add to my confusion, there seem to be some 'transitional' models. So I would like to know what version it is so I can go to the right sub forum for more info. Other than the troublesome mag, I enjoy shooting it. Thanks for any info.

CZF CZ-85 Combat Club:

http://czechpistols82792.yuku.com/fo...MBAT-CLUB.html

Historical Overview of CZ Pistols with emphasis on the 75/85 series:

http://czechpistols82792.yuku.com/to...roduction.html

General Information on Type A CZs (like yours):

http://czechpistols82792.yuku.com/fo...SSIC-CLUB.html


Depending on the year of manufacture, Mec-Gar aftermarket magazines may not fit the pistol. The later the better.

You have what appears to be a relatively late Standard model (as opposed to the Lux or Combat). CZ 85s occasionally used the modern (Type B) controls as early as the 1980s. It may not be a Transitional, despite the modern controls. The early versions with modern controls usually have the spur hammer, though.

Your year of manufacture is represented by a two-digit code in the oval behind the extractor. Type A CZ 85 = 1986-1992. Transitional = 1993-1994. Type B CZ 85 = 1995-present. It is definitely NOT a CZ 85B. (No retaining pin for the firing pin block is visible.)

If I was forced to guess, I would say it is a 1994 Transitional.