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Decibel316	Magazine Base Plates	Lead	[-]
Posts: 4 (12/23/2007 11:30:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Hello All, I sort of a newb here. I've been carrying a P-01 and I love it. I would like to get rid of the rubber base plate on the magazine. I've seen some pictures of the P-01 without it. What do I need to do? Do I need to purchase a new base plate or can I remove the rubber on the ones I have? Thanks,
Kevin Quinlan		#1	[-]
Posts: 329 (12/23/2007 14:37:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mec Gar mags don't come with the base pads, or you could list them in the classifieds to see if someone wants to trade.
Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...		#2	[-]
Posts: 24 (12/23/2007 15:29:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Just before the CZUSA online store went down for repairs, I ordered 4 extra thick plastic magazine bases, hoping to use them on my full length Kadet mags so they would look better on my P01's compact magazine well. The bases did not work in that role. However, I was able to easily install them on full size 16 round 9mm CZ75 mags (Mec-Gar). They fit perfectly and allow me to carry a few extra rounds in my P01 with no unsightly gap between the bottom of the grip and the magazine base. They also might be good if you have big hands and need more grip length. They would not be a replacement for the bases on your compact P01 mags, as then you would not be able to seat the magazine. However, you can now use the flat metal Mec-Gar mag bases on your compact mags, for the low profile you may be seeking. Springfield Armory uses this concept on their Compact XD 45 polymer pistols, claiming it gives you two guns in one (10 and 13 round capacity mags) with different capacities and grip lengths. It is a brilliant concept that really does work as claimed (I own a 5" XD 45 Compact). I only just realized with your post that the same thing can be done with the P01. If you like, I can post a photo of the three P01 magazines.
Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...	P01 Magazine base options	#3	[-]
Posts: 25 (12/23/2007 16:12:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	In the above image, my P01 has a full size 16 round 9mm Mec-Gar mag inserted with a CZUSA thick plastic mag base. This is a good option if you need more grip length for large hands or for when you are wearing gloves. Next to it are two compact 14 round mags, one with a flat metal base taken from the Mec-Gar mag (the base lock button protrudes but is not a problem) and the other a stock 14 round mag with the stock rubber base pad. All bases are easy to swap. The thick pad will not function with a compact mag (mag will not seat in mag well). In the above image my P01 has a compact 14 round mag inserted with the flat metal base taken from the full size Mec-Gar mag. You can see that it has a lower profile. Also, the all metal base will not snag your shirt like the stock rubber pad. Next to it is the full 16 round mag with thick plastic base and a stock compact mag with stock rubber pad. Of all three, I prefer the stock compact mag with the stock rubber pad for feel and semi compact profile. You can gravity drop it and it won't get much damage. I doubt that the extra 2 rounds would make a difference. But if the zombies take over my neighborhood, I have 16 round mags on tap.
Kevin Quinlan		#4	[-]
Posts: 330 (12/23/2007 18:07:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Wild, If the Zombies hit, load a CZ factory 26 round mag. I think Midway carries them also. LOTS of fun at the range, and makes a great nightstand addition.
Denalipark		#5	[-]
Posts: 27 (12/23/2007 18:58:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I wondered about those 16-rounders in the PO1 and now I'm gonna get me a few. Am I seeing that right and there's no gap?
Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...		#6	[-]
Posts: 26 (12/23/2007 19:15:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Denalipark wrote: I wondered about those 16-rounders in the PO1 and now I'm gonna get me a few. Am I seeing that right and there's no gap? There is a slight 1.5 mm gap. I think you need a slight gap to ensure proper seating of the mag. I am not sure where you can get these extra thick plastic mag bases, since the CZUSA online store is still down for "repairs". They are expressly designed to convert full sized mags for compact pistols, like the P01. I am lucky I got mine and over ordered 4 of them. I have 3 compact 14 round mags, 3 full size 16 round mags, one spare thick mag base, and 3 thin metal mag bases. I am ready for the zombies. One problem with an extra extra long 26 round mag (besides impracticality and aesthetics) is that a criminal could use it to leverage the gun away from you. It is well known that criminals teach each other gun disarming techniques in prison. Not many civilians practice counter moves and gun retention. Last Edited By: Wild Rice 12/23/2007 19:22:43. Edited 1 times.
Kevin Quinlan		#7	[-]
Posts: 331 (12/23/2007 20:04:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wild Rice wrote: One problem with an extra extra long 26 round mag (besides impracticality and aesthetics) is that a criminal could use it to leverage the gun away from you. It is well known that criminals teach each other gun disarming techniques in prison. Not many civilians practice counter moves and gun retention. Hi Wild, If the bad guy gets close enough to get his hands on the mag base, one should reflect on the lack of practice time at the range, and wonder why the heck you let him get that close.
stdlrf11		#8	[-]
Posts: 156 (12/24/2007 07:50:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If the bad guy got his hands on my gun, I would be concentrating on winning the fight instead of reflecting on range time and wondering how I let them get that close. stdlrf11
Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...		#9	[-]
Posts: 27 (12/24/2007 16:17:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	So what do you all think? Which is the best P01 magazine of the three pictured? For concealment, the flat metal base won't snag your shirt like the stock rubber plate. The full size mag has two extra rounds for a minimal tactical advantage, but offers more grip length if you have large hands or are wearing gloves. You could carry the pistol in a horizontal shoulder holster with the flat metal base and pack two full size mags as spares. That should be enough fire power to get you out of a tough situation. I still don't like super long extended mags. One advantage of compact guns is that they are easier to retain and offer less leverage in a gun grab situation. Trained police officers get their guns grabbed away from them frequently. Criminals can close the distance very fast and practice disarming techniques in prison. Don't think that lightning like reflexes will make you immune to a low life going for your gun. If you did have to shoot someone justifiably and were using a 26 round mag, it could be used against you in court. It is easier to defend having two "normal" spare mags in court, as this is the mandatory equipment load for most police. The police being the role model of the armed citizen.
Decibel316		#10	[-]
Posts: 5 (12/28/2007 09:01:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	So basically what you are saying is I have to buy a different mag and the switch the base? I was hoping there was a cheaper option!!
armoredman		#11	[-]
Posts: 573 (12/28/2007 11:08:21) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The newest compact mags from CZ that I have seen have the flat metal baseplate. Good stuff.
Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...		#12	[-]
Posts: 31 (12/28/2007 13:05:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I did not consider it expensive as I ended up with many functional magazines with good versatility of I swap the mag bases around. The thick conversion mag bases did not cost very much at all ($9 each). However, I bought them just before the CZUSA online store when belly up. I am not sure when the store will come back online, and I don't know where you can buy them in the mean time. I guess I was lucky. You could try a search for flat metal CZ75 mag base plates. Last Edited By: Wild Rice 01/08/2008 07:04:04. Edited 1 times.
Kevin Quinlan		#13	[-]
Posts: 334 (12/28/2007 14:41:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wild Rice wrote: I did not consider it expensive as I ended up with many functional magazines with good versatility of I swap the mag bases around. The thick conversion mag bases did not cost very much at all (perhaps $7 each?). However, I bought them just before the CZUSA online store when belly up. I am not sure when the store will come back online, and I don't know where you can buy them in the mean time. I guess I was lucky. You could try a search for flat metal CZ75 mag base plates. There is a thread on here, or maybe czshooters, about using Beretta 92 mag bases. They are a perfect fit, and also come in colors. The thread lists the online store where they are available.
ShortyBP		#14	[-]
Posts: 113 (12/29/2007 06:05:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Decibel... please forgive my ignorance as it's early for me and I'm still half asleep... Are you wanting to trade your rubber baseplates for flat metal ones? If so, I am willing to do a straight-up trade... my flat metal for your rubber ones. I just went downstairs and swapped the baseplates of my factory (rubber) and MecGar (flat) mags to check compatability and they swap out fine. Let me know. I'd actually love to get my hands on a couple more rubber baseplates.
Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...		#15	[-]
Posts: 35 (01/08/2008 07:06:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The CZUSA online store is back up and running. You can order the thick base pads that allow you to use full size 16 round CZ75 mags with the P01. They are in the Competition parts section and cost $9.00 each plus shipping.
Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...		#16	[-]
Posts: 36 (01/08/2008 07:08:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Deleted Last Edited By: Wild Rice 01/08/2008 07:11:59. Edited 1 times.
Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...		#17	[-]
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